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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Apr 26, 2009 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

I wish more forum-ites would post reviews b/c the reviews I find are mostly lacking in objectivity. (i.e. "me and my friend were so wasted at this show; I remember thinking Jerry looked like Mothra and Phil was Godzilla and they were both breathing fire." Ummm....thanks..so, do I want to hear this how or not???)

I look for reviewers (rare as they are) who also post regularly on the forum b/c they are usually the most knowledgable and reliable for a good show.

But much as I'd like to see more shows reviewed, I also wish there was more specific show discussion on the forum. For example. Liamfinnergan is always good for an excellent point-to of a version of a tune...SDH recommends great shows via forum post often, and many others as well.

Much as I can get into the "side discussions", even the idiotic political ones that make no sense in context of a forum about a dinosaur band--I do wish it would focus more on THE MUSIC.

I mean, think about ir...we've got some 2,000 + shows to discuss and parse over from every era...there's still a lot of good recommendations to be made.





This post was modified by grendelschoice on 2009-04-26 16:31:17

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 26, 2009 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

I see your point, but in a way, all the community interactions, as DH1 noted above, lead to strong feelings of affection and respect, at least on my part, for so many members here that I realize it matters more than the rest...how many times can I blather on about 12-29-68 and 6-14-68, right? But, the degree to which folks foster a positive self projection (ie, through kindness, tolerance, insight, etc., often revealed in off topic tangents, be they economics, military history or pet peeves while driving) seem to me to make this a much more rewarding group, all the better served when something new comes along.

Witness, EG, the absolutely great series of discussions of the latest RTrips...I think that many of us gained in that exchange given the long standing relationships that had been established prior to our heartfelt exchange over this newly released material. Just wouldn't have played out that way if we were a bunch of anonymous reviewers.

In a way, this was the underlying motivation of my post. The reviews are generally isolated commentaries that you can't place in any sort of context for the individual. Here, however, the history of each and every poster, at least most of them anyhow, greatly enhances the information provided while kicking around new material or a new take on old material. You just don't get that from the reviews, IMHO.

Hmmm, almost gushing there...distressing to some no doubt, but you probably all just roll your eyes and say "poor old sentimental Tell...it's pathetic he doesn't have a real life...but maybe I'll listen to 6-14 and post something about it just so he doesn't need to take another physical therapy session for his broken down back"...or maybe you just ignore it, but either way the background probably helped you decide.

In spite of all our differences over the years here GC, as just one small example, I can safely say that we share a great deal of our "outlook" on the world at large, both somewhat cynical/realistic bleeding hearts (in a good way), etc., etc., and it helps me understand your position on all sorts of issues, music and otherwise.

Jeezzz, I think I am even boring myself now...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Apr 26, 2009 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

No, I actually made it all the way thru your post ;-)

Largely, WT, I agree. Over the years (jeez, that's crazy) we regulars have all come to have recognizable personalities and it does make for more engaged discussion/ranting/what have you.

But in your example of the Rtrips posts, I would say that DOES fit in w/the larger discussion of 'what's the best version of Row Jimmy', etc.. b/c it's at least Dead-related...while also reflecting views about bigger issues--old vs. new heads, littering, cops, how much money the tickets cost. etc.

Being a died-in-the-wool liberal (as you described me in an earlier post, and while I grudgingly accept the label I would caution that I don't go 'big L' across the board--ask me my views on whether English should be a required first language for immigrants some day and you might be surprised at my most un-liberal answer), I always accept free speech on whatever topic is at hand...it just seems often silly given the topic of the forum to be talking about Kensyean economics or gun control, but yes, I recognize we all have views on things that reach beyond our favorite Shakedown.

BTW, if you're still reading this post, I sincerely hope I'm not the only forum-ite here who would describe himself--generally--as liberal. If I am, the world has certainly changed a lot under my feet without me realizing it (i'm the ONLY liberal to be found on a forum of Deadheads???), and I'll cry real American tears. (You know, because I just love my country so much, and--sniff--I fear for it.)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 26, 2009 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

Oh, I knew that (you're "unL" outlook on that issue) or at least woulda guessed as that's part & parcel of the "cynicised liberal aging process" I tend to think...but hey, not to say we don't have our differences, or what would this world be, much less this forum? A heck of alot more boring doubtless.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 26, 2009 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

Need a tissue?

http://leftagenda.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/colbert-cries-over-glenn-becks-loss-of-sanity/

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Poster: rastamon Date: Apr 26, 2009 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

is Glenn Beck on CNN? I pay little attention to most TV talking heads. The Colbert show is a satire/comedy show to yuk-yuk with. They are very liberal with excerts & taking things out of context- for comedy sake-of course(duh).

But as long as it makes Glenn look like an idiot, making no good points, thats what counts, which = no idiot's viewpoint should even be considered (except the idiots on the left)
lol

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 26, 2009 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: unprovoked rant

All of these TV shows focus on the most divisive issues to maintain the insanity which is "party politics".

When all we ever wanted or needed was a little common sense from our politicians.

You may say I'm a dreamer.....

You'd be right. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one. None of these face-boys ever has an original thought or opinion. They're selling ads.....that's all. It's "BREAKING NEWS" 24/7 because the boomers buy more Viagra and the housewives buy more Swiffers. That's the result of their babble. The intended result, I might add.

If we fixed health care, schools and SS, they'd go broke.

Damn, these shows are good too. They hook me all the time. Sometimes I walk away w/ a sick feeling.....subconsciously. I never click away from one of those shows feeling uplifted. Never.

That's why I stay away and stick w/ music and sports. The challenge is to stay informed without relying on these particular fuck-faces. Best of luck with that. Really.

This post was modified by high flow on 2009-04-26 19:08:18

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 26, 2009 1:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: unprovoked rant

Hmmm, you're smart...like I kinda thought...but this helps make it clear. And we still have Ed Abbey in common. Need more like him it seems. I sorta think of Earl as Economics Ed...might just be the "E"...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Apr 26, 2009 3:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: unprovoked rant

I think high flow mighta nailed it...at least how I feel.

These talking head bozos--left and right--are all about bringing in the ad money...it's a particularly cyncial brand of "entertainment", but what infurates me is that it's heralded under the banner of "news." We may understand that, but the millions of people who glom on to "the message", such as it is, don't. AND they vote based on those extreme and divisive viewpoints. That's why we never get any meaningful reform.

You can glean more true wisdom from other forms of entertainment (i.e. an episode of "The Wire") about the way things really work than you can from watching a year's worth of Fox or MSNBC.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 26, 2009 3:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: unprovoked rant

Ha--my wife (don't tell Miss D!) loves the Wire...good show.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 26, 2009 11:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reviewers vs Forumites...(Forum related)

Mr. Beck has jumped to FOX. Where they dyed his hair and tried to make him "purty" like they tried to do with Greta after she came over from CNN.

Colbert's whole schtick on his show is pretty much as a parody of "Papa Bear" Bill O'Reilly.